Disclaimer: before reading this article, please understand:
the female readers needn't feel ashamed if she shows less regard for male privacy.... or, what-have-you.)
(It's important to explain what inspired this Article:
Women's Groups have spend decades harping-on issues such as assault.
And, they claim, 'every male is the rapist', etc. etc..
This is why it's necessary to clarify the myth.
If anything, males are raised into an environment where his privacy is compromised.
Therefore, since 'Women's groups' address this overall issue...
We should now understand the simple truth:
If anything, it's actually Boys who could make a valid case.)
So, the goal of this article is to prove that "Feminist Dogma" is completely invalid.
One could easily recognize general 'immodesty' stereotypes as clearly degrading to boys.
You needn't agree with any theories which claim,
he's stripped of his dignity.
However, at least the following article serves it's purpose:
finally removing the Feminized theories which claim that girls are
degraded,
sexualized,
exploited,
widely displayed,
assaulted,
and what-have-you.
In truth, society has always placed boys into a position,
where he's taught to accept nakedness while in the presence of females.
Boys have always experienced this requirement.
Whether, female relatives tell the boy to remove his dirty clothes,
while girls are present. Or, he scraped his knee, and mom examines him,
by dropping his pants. While girls are watching nearby.
There are many possibilities, which always produce the same outcome.
Therefore, 'Women's Groups' cannot possibly claim that girls are raised as 'objects'. 
I'm a Men's Rights Activist.
And I'd like to discuss an age-old form of inequality.
Many families expect their sons to walk into their bedrooms wearing nothing but their underpants. While, in contrast, they buy expensive nightgowns for their daughters. Many Mothers will even insist that they simply can't afford to buy proper attire for their boys. SO, it makes “economical” sense to keep the boys walking around in their undies. I find it to be quite sad. The very same women who brought us into this world, don't feel the need to spend a few dollars on clothing. Thanks mom!
But, the implications are far reaching. We exist upon a society which gives little dignity to males. I'm especially appalled by these attitudes which suggest, boys needn't be protected by his family. Home is the one place where males should be temporarily sheltered from outside negativity. But instead, his very own family betrays him. But, they always say the same thing: “Don't worry, he'll get used to it”. And he should just be taught to become an eventual naked street-walker. Plus, we should also consider the frequent guests which may visit the common household. The Sister will invite scores of young girls dropping in, while the son in taught to act casually. Until, eventually, his appearance will seem normal to everyone. And, every son is expected to follow this immodesty. I've gathered just a few examples to demonstrate my case. Indeed: families encourage their sons to sleep in undies. Plus, they always establish how “different things are” for girls. Interestingly, most parents would never consider imposing this common law upon their daughters. After all, that would be unheard of.
Everyone deserves to be treated with the same level of respect. Therefore, the current standards should be openly discouraged by our mothers. Mom, please respect your sons.
RE: Women in Pajamas, Men naked July 26, 2007
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MY COMMENTARY: The whole thing smells fishy, to me. Why would a mother be so anxious to prove that her sons are immodest. Let's go back to that issue of “born Vs. Bred”. I also noticed that she approached this issue in the usual fashion. Wouldn't you say, she's overdoing it, by insisting that the boys refuse to wear shirts, even on the coldest days. Ha. And, being a concerned mother, you'd think, she would force them to wear a shirt, in order to prevent pneumonia.
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MY RESPONSE: Why are you trying to prove this point, anyway? The real message pertains to women establishing social control through artificial modesty. In other words, she wants this stigma to exist. Also, she's suggesting, that guys are highly interested in the opposite sex, and not vice versa. "hey guys, wouldn't you like to see..... Don't you wish?
Lisa Chandler says:
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MY RESPONSE: YES YES YES... Okay, now we're beginning to unravel the truth behind it all. PARENTS teach boys to be uninhibited. This will inevitably burden him with a huge disadvantage in life.
Next comment:
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My Response: here we go, again. Why are these issues taken to extremes? She "never" encountered a boy sleeping with his shirt on? Not even once? Once again: what's the point?
Next Comment:
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My response: Once again, why would they perform such a lengthy study? Here's the reason: Their goal is to create a gap between the genders. This might seem like a paranoid conclusion, on my part. But, it's still a fully accurate presumption.
Scott thinks it's a custom for a guy to wear less. And it's taught to us, by our moms & sisters.
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MY RESPONSE: Yes, exactly. This boy is told by his mom, as well as other female family members, that he's SUPPOSED TO sleep in his underwear.
Ruby says:
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MY RESPONSE: This paragraph truly says it all. Basically: the family mentioned won't allow their sons to wear any clothing. They've probably never thought of it, this way. But, they're forcing their sons to sleep nude. That's pretty scary. Even worse, they always insist that the boys love it. And they're not the least bit offended by it. Also, did you notice the “Boys Vs. Girls” logo. This proves, the issue is being treated like a COMPETETIVE event. Also, they claim that it's unhealthy to sleep in the same pair of undies which they wore at school. Why can't they just wear a different pair. And, why doesn't this hypoallergenic rule apply to the girls, as well?
Nat says:
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MY RESPONSE: that's a funny statement. You're talking about a forced system of communal showering for men (while the women have more dignified booths). What does this have to do with “natural instinct”?
MY CONCLUSION FROM THIS STUDY:
sadly, Families encourage boys to sleep in their undies. I could very-well say that our mothers are sick bastards. But, we mustn't lead down that path. I could also describe them as 'betrayers' who fail to protect their sons.
This is still an example of sexism, coercion, and inequality.
Boys are raised to be less dignified than girls.
and it surely doesn't stop with this example.
But, with all said, it's difficult to understand why no one has ever addressed these issues.
By the way: this subject will be discussed many times, in future articles.
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My parents didn't encourage me to be immodest, but I wish they would have in the area of sleeping. I grew up in the 1970s in St. Louis and always wore pajamas.
But whenever I spent the night at another kid's house, I noticed that most boys slept in tighty whiteys without a shirt.
I never asked my mom or dad if I could sleep in less than full pajamas, because I knew the answer would be no and that they would think I was weird for even thinking about such a thing.
My experience is the opposite from this thesis and unlike the other comment, I asked many times if I could ditch the pjs.
I think my mom would have been cool with it, but dad always said no so I wore pjs and shirts to bed until I moved into the college dorm. My dad was a minister, but what is wrong with sleeping pajama less.
The other parents at our church had no problem with their sons sleeping shirtless. The church youth group gave a surprise wake up at dawn to two different kids each week, filmed it and showed it at our weekly youth meeting. I was part of youth group for 4 years at this church and was one of only two boys who was sleeping in a shirt/pjs when it was our turn to be awakened. The other shirted kid was a fat nerd. All of the other 20 or so boys over the years were all sleeping bare chested in shorts/boxers.
In 1977, I did my 6th grade science project on the subject of sleep. I interviewed the other boys in the 6th grade class about their bedtimes, wake up times, how much sleep they got etc. I also asked what they usually wore to bed, although I did not include this data in my final project. There were 15 boys including myself in the three class.
Sleepwear for 6th graders was all over the road in 1977. 4 boys wore pajamas. 2 more boys wore pajama bottoms but no top. 1 wore a tank top and gym shorts. 6 boys slept in just their underwear. 2 more wore underwear but added a t-shirt.
My two best friends slept in just their tighty whities, so I knew that was all many boys wore to bed but I was surprised because of tv and store catalogs that a little over half wore underpants instead of pajama bottoms and slept without a shirt.
During the first 6 weeks of the new school year, our church youth group wakes up a teenage boy and a girl on Saturday and takes them out to each breakfast. Many times, it is a brother and sister. We started this fun activity back in 2006.
Out of the 30 boys we've awakened, I don't recall any of them wearing shirts to bed. Boys prefer to sport bare chests while sleeping these days.
Last summer, we also woke up the 6th graders as a fun way to remind them of their last year to participate in VBS. All 9 boys were sleeping completely bare chested that morning.
Here in Sandy Springs, Georgia our boys by 6th grade seem to not wear pajama tops or t-shirts.
I think I must have been about 12 when my mom replaced my pyjamas by a pair of sleepshorts like these:
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meant to be worn without a shirt.
My sisters continued to sleep in pyjamas, I considered this perfectly normal and I do not see what is immodest about this.
Our father was an officer in the Red Army and tolerated no wimphood in the family. The boys wore pyjamas when little kids but as soon as we reached our teens they were taken away from us and nudity was the rule for bed. If you got caught with any kind of garment a good old spanking is what you received.
You froze your ass off for a few weeks and finally got used to it.
All this did not apply to the girls of course who wore all kinds of fancy sleepwear.
Our education was harsh but we did have less crime in those days.
I still think our mom and dad raised us in a proper way despite the comments on the original post.
In 1975, when I was 10, my mom told me right after school was out for the summer that I would be cooler and more comfortable if I slept in my underwear and a t-shirt. For the next two summers. this was my sleep attire.
In the summer of 1977, my older sister came into wake me up one morning and asked me why I still wore a shirt to bed and that didn't I know that boys my age sleep bare chested in the summer. My mom agreed and said that I was almost a teenager and that teenage boys don't sleep in shirts in the summer. So I started sleeping in just tighty whities but I continued to wear pajamas in the colder months.
I didn't know my dad and my mom and sister wore pjs year round, so I don't know why they thought it was unacceptable for a boy to wear pajamas in the summer.
In 1975, when I was 10, my mom told me right after school was out for the summer that I would be cooler and more comfortable if I slept in my underwear and a t-shirt. For the next two summers. this was my sleep attire.
In the summer of 1977, my older sister came into wake me up one morning and asked me why I still wore a shirt to bed and that didn't I know that boys my age sleep bare chested in the summer. My mom agreed and said that I was almost a teenager and that teenage boys don't sleep in shirts in the summer. So I started sleeping in just tighty whities but I continued to wear pajamas in the colder months.
I didn't know my dad and my mom and sister wore pjs year round, so I don't know why they thought it was unacceptable for a boy to wear pajamas in the summer.
I would think most boys decide on their own to stop wearing pajamas. I would also think it would actually be pretty rare for a parent especially a mother to encourage their sons to wear less to bed.
I think it's all very simple: this whole article is not sexual, or anything like that. But, it certainly indicates that the girls role in family was highly trusted. Parents had no problem with older sisters taking care of the male youth. SO, in other words; I wouldn't think that any girls status back then was "Oppressed". So, that's the whole message here.
Growing up in the 1970s, my brother walked around in his tighty whities all the time. If my sister and I had hung around the house in our underwear, our mom would have told us to put some clothes on but she never said a word to him. He'd put shorts on (but not a shirt) if we had company otherwise it seemed like he lived in just his briefs.
But in no way was my brother disrespected or discriminated against by my mom. She dearly loved me and my sister, but she ADORED my brother. He was clearly her favorite child.
My own son loves to hang around the house in just his boxers and won't wear anything else to bed even on the coldest winter nights. I think males in my family are just hot natured.
Once a month, our youth pastors also give one of the members of the youth group a surprise wake up, film it and put it on YouTube.
It can be the dead of winter with snow on the ground and the girls will be in long sleeve pajama tops or sweatshirts, but the boys will be sleeping in shorts and totally bare chested.
I was also going to say that many of our boys at church wear shorts year round so maybe there is some biological reason that teenage boys just don't get cold.
I only have 2 daughters, never had a brother and my husband is always cold so I have no experience raising boys other than helping out in church.
In 1980, I assisted on a morality film for a religious denomination about a family where the husband is having an affair. The couple had 3 boys and 2 girls in the 9-16 age range.
There was a scene showing the kids waking up for school one morning. Both of the girls were depicted wearing pajamas to bed while all 3 boys were depicted as sleeping in underwear. The girls pjs had long sleeves and long bottoms but for the boys, it was just tighty whities.
I asked the director why the boys didn't wear pajamas and she said because it is 1980 not 1950 and that realism was important for this picture and that for American teenage boys, the most normal looking sleep attire would be a pair of briefs and a bare chest.
She had kids and I didn't and she was in charge so I said no more even though I disagreed. Thinking back on that shoot I think this article is on to something.
I find it strange that this would be an issue.
My mom and older sister likely saw my brother and me in our underwear every single day. Our family was very conservative and no one was an exhibitionist or nudist or anything like that but houses were smaller when I grew up in the 1970s and when you had one bathroom and needed to be on time for school, church, sports or other activities, modesty for boys was just not a problem. Being in my underwear in front of my family was just something I didn't give a second thought about.
We played outside all day in the summer and would be pretty dirty by supper time. If you didn't have time to shower before eating, it wasn't uncommon to strip down to your undies to eat.
My brother and I usually slept in just a pair of tighty whities and it would never have occurred to us to put on a robe just to walk to the bathroom, kiss my mom good night or get something I left in the living room.
I never felt neglected or like I was being ridiculed and I know my brother didn't either. I probably wouldn't have wanted to be seen in my briefs by non family members but my mom and sister seeing me in my underwear never bothered me one bit.
From 1980 to 2003, I worked for a research firm that conducted home smoke alarm tests on families with boys in the 1st-9th grades. So, I got a good feel for how American suburban boys dressed for bed.
In the 1980s, boys in grades 1-3 usually wore pajamas while those in 7-9 slept in underwear. 4-6 graders varied with many still wearing pjs but some starting to sleep in underwear.
By the 2000s, most boys of all ages now slept in some kind of shorts instead of actual pjs or undies.
The other change is the increasing number of boys who sleep bare chested. While 7-9 graders have always mainly slept shirtless, no shirt has also become the norm for boys in 4-6 grades where previously most boys that age wore some type of top to bed. Even quite a few 1-3 grade boys sleep without shirts today which was very rare 30 years ago.
What is the obsession here about what boys wear to bed and whether or not they sleep in shirts? I would be far more concerned about whether my son was getting the right amount of sleep than I would be about what he was or wasn't wearing in the privacy of his own bed.
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